. Quality wasn't the greatest in early years, but over time, This invention was mass-produced, unlike Edison's design a decade before. Centerpiece is the gramophone compartment with its concealed automatic lamp and two record storage compartments on either side. different brands of phonographs made from the late 1800's up until the Edison entered into the radio business in 1928 by taking over the Splitdorf-Bethlehem Electrical Company of Newark, a move which allowed him to produce radio-phonographs. The Department of War never purchased any, but individual units bought them, some taking them overseas. depending on demand and condition. The combination was recognized instantly as a major step forward in sound reproduction. advancements were made to enhance the sound quality and convenience of talking machines. If your phonograph has a Each model and design has its unique numbers. database shows the earliest existent Consolette (4-3) to be S/N 932 and the larger cabinet with a modern, high-quality appearance (picture on right). of That is, the device could be powered with hand cranks and electricity. on this website if you wish to learn It uses RCA's Radiola 18, introduced on April 1928 as one of the first AC powered radios and one of the last TRF (Tuned Radio-Frequency) receivers, together with a Victor Electrola gramophone. Victrolas, which are both rare and have distinctive finishes, are high atop the list of collectible record players. This company, which consisted of bright thinkers at the time, successfully built on existing record player designs to create a record player which has its sound horn within the cabinet. Operations were cut back, and experimentation began with long-playing records. These recording systems are not compatible Ten-inch records would run for 5 minutes per side at approximately 80 r.p.m. by 1958, the 78RPM record was obsolete. Most common radio/phono consoles that you come across in basements The finishing materials also varied. After this, discs and disc players, most notably the Victrolas, began to dominate the market. Original Price CHF21.54 Click on the links below. But it was Emile Berliner, not Edison, who developed the commercial disc machine known as the gramophone. learning about your Victor Phonograph! 1928 Victor Victrola Record Player- VV 4-20 Condition: Used Time left: 3d 23h | Tuesday, 10:35 AM Starting bid: US $200.00 [ 0 bids ] Bid Amount Enter US $200.00 or more Price: US $350.00 No Interest if paid in full in 6 mo on $99+* Add to Watchlist Pickup: Free local pickup from Parker, Colorado, United States. Unlike the cylinder, the flat record The discs were expensive to make because of the complicated chemical processes used for them. Aylsworth molded phenol and formaldehyde mixed with wood-flour and a solvent into a heat-resistant disc. Price was more than reasonable. RESOURCES page. However, following the halt in production, the Victor Talking Machine Company was subsequently acquired by the Radio Corporation of America (RCA). one production run having pre-Orthophonic components and a second run with full you are new to this hobby, are less than 50 years old, or have never studied the force in the phonograph marketplace, relying on the 78 RPM Berliner record Some Victor-Victrola record players have inconsistent serialization. After this, discs and disc players, most notably the Victrolas, began to dominate the market. The Victor Talking Machine Company, and later by RCA. The One of these pages can be found here. reasonable care. You can compare prices through online auctions, eBay, estate sales, thrift markets, etc. Two doors were added to conceal the sound horns and serve as a remote for the sound volume. Some unscrupulous manufacturers have taken advantage of this to create replicas with identical serial numbers. For example, it could have a beautiful wood design, or the original purchase documents may still exist. Victrola records include it as well. This has to do with comparing a brand new Victrola to the machine being assessed. The history and People sometimes mistake the Victor phonograph with the Victrola record players. These symbols do not indicate that they manufacture the product. Small Business. Helpful Tip of the Once you are sure of the authenticity of the Victrola record player, you can begin the process of judging the market price or value. rare antique phonograph that has some real collector value. Other information on a dataplate includes the patent dates, copyright, and the trademark (a dog and a gramophone). his phonograph cylinders and players for many years. At some point, the company manufactured hybrids of Electrola and Victrola. Radio station WAAM of Newark, New Jersey, agreed to use the new Rayediphonic Reproducing Machine and Radiosonic records in 1929, with the first Radiosonic broadcast being aired on April 4. Rarity is a vital feature used in assessing the value of a recording machine. They made many hundreds of millions of them, and they still show-up by the Some Victrolas manufactured in the 1920s have their tags beneath their turntables. These tiny particles get into the various parts of the record players and cause damage. possible that the factory pulled-back those Consolette machines, which were still Consolette (later referred to as the 4-3) was one of four premiere Victor Talking Machine Company" from 1900-1929. The Disc Phonograph and the Edison Discs were designed to be an entire system, incompatible with other discs or disc players. cylinder record (right) was the original invention of Thomas Edison in 1877, and Original 1926 Victor Victrola Orthophonic Phonograph Reproducer "Credenza" model HongPong 3.78K subscribers Subscribe 3.5K views 8 years ago Awesome original hand-cranked Victor Victrola. developed. Although Edison associates initially worked on the project in secret, when Edison discovered it, he took control of this new project and gave it much of his personal attention. The more common spring drive was used in most Victrola models through the 1920s, but by 1928 most phonographs were sold with the electric motors. A slot was provided in the lid to store a few records. Many entrepreneurs jumped onto the phonograph manufacturing bandwagon in the As already mentioned in my Victor RE-45 documentation (ref.4) the Electrola pickup in all cases has to be rebuilt, because two rubber dampers have deteriorated and must be replaced. "highly valuable", even though they may be over 100 years old. non-folded semi-exponential horn, and did not have a cover over the horn The Army and Navy Model was discontinued after the war's end. Auto brake added at s/n 39501. If the doors were opened, the sound would be loud; if they were closed, the sound would have been reduced. The 4-3 was gradually discontinued from production in early 1929 when low-cost electronically-amplified phonographs became commonly available. battles between phonograph companies were ongoing for many years, as each design feature was challenged and prominent through the 1940's, using the improved plastic-based material. This sticker is found chiefly on the bottom inside the wall or back of the equipment. By 1917, the Disc Phonograph had garnered considerable success in the marketplace. The current survival 1928 Victor Victrola Automatic Changer Orthophonic Phonograph Record Lif. or a 45 RPM record on an early wind-up Victrola, not only will the heavy arm and needle legwork finding buyers, and you won't become rich. Edison first developed a disc phonograph in 1878. Edison marketed and sold In early 1928. The popularity of these old devices has been rising steadily, as they keep getting collected every month. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. We have This type of Victrola is also known as an Electrola. It was produced in the 1920s for a short period. It's hard to sell them unless you are willing to do a lot of The phonograph you are viewing shows the Victrola 1-1 nameplate on the bottom with the date of April 20, 1925. or yard sales (such as the one shown here) date from the 1950's or 1960's, and have nothing to Our expertise coupled with modern technology allows us to do what most repair facilities cannot. About my Radiogram: questions-- daddypaddyart@gmail.com Heavy Item- Shipping will be at Electrical recording was developed by Western Electric, although a primitive electrical process was developed by Orlando R. Marsh, owner and founder of Autograph Records. even today, most of these old phonographs are not considered "rare" in the won't play. 1925 using non-Orthophonic components (before the Orthophonic machines were depending on demand and condition. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. This unavoidable error occurred due to a disastrous fire in the factory in 1904. sound distorted, and the record will wear out very quickly. Together, these giant companies became titans in the music industry. The Edison Company had been fully devoted to . needle will destroy the record grooves, and the machine is not designed to Prices for the discs ranged from $1.15 to $4.25, but later were changed to $1.35 to $2.25. Disc records were longer playing and easier to store, but Edison resisted them due to his belief that cylinder recordings sounded superior. How many times have you wondered who it was you were actually dealing with? In inexpensively duplicated by pressing them from a master disc, similar design modernized at s/n 91000, Higher Thanks to the advertising campaign, Victors sales continued to increase. to avoid premature wear (picture below). It appeared that the company had finally found a profitable outlet. The most effective method of getting the accurate market value of an antique piece is through comparison. Manufactured by the Victor Talking Machine Company, Victrola phonographs and gramophones rocked the music scene from the late 1800s to the 1920s. boatload. Just like "Chevrolet" does not mean any Please see archivist for access. The Consolette / VV 4-3 was available only in a blended-stain mahogany finish This is especially true when the soundbox in the same room. A diamond point was obtained for the stylus. We don't sell parts or We are currently taking reservations for the 2023 repair year. Edison marketed and sold RCA VICTOR PHONOGRAPH VICTROLA /RADIO "NIPPER" STYLE DOG, 6 3/4" TALL, NICE SIZE. For example, some Victrolas have Lyon, Hudsons, and Wurlitzer logos. one of those early competing companies. Victor Talking Machine Co. had been founded in 1901 by gramophone pioneers Berliner and Johnson. The combination was recognized instantly as a major step forward in sound reproduction. By 1901, the company was reopened and named the Victor Talking Machine Company, AKA The Victor. I couldn't have been more satisfied. Edison (18471931) was a seasoned scientist recognized for his contributions to the motion picture camera, the lightbulb, and the phonograph. This equipment could record and play multiple sounds using waxed cylinders. Over the years, many passionate collectors have invested time in learning how to restore or repair original antique Victrola phonographs and gramophones. You can find out more about your Victor machine by reading through these pages. from the plant due to the collapse of phonograph sales during that timeframe. vs. the early Consolette. understanding what "Victrolas" and antique phonographs are all about. The dawn of the 20th century came with an ingenious way to play recorded sounds at homes, parties, restaurants, and clubs. (zoned commercial) both sides. Sorry for the bad news. Regal, Sonora, Silvertone and many others. It has an electric setup that imitates the mechanism of the hand cranks. these items; but that isn't our purpose. With these pointers, even an inexperienced collector will be capable of making informed decisions on the value of their Victrola Record Players. Out of the numerous antique record players being collected, the Victrola record players caught our attention. Legal Vintage Victrola . These functioned manually with hand cranks and were manufactured before electricity became a thing. Of A model identification number, as well as a serial number, is always stamped on the bottom left and right of the data plate, respectively. Then around the year 1913, Victrola models started to have the electric motors option. This model has an excellent driftwood oak finish. latest is S/N 8601. These One of the last creations by Victor Talking Machine, already heavily equipped with RCA components, one year before take-over, In a Nutshell the Acoustic Phonograph. "Credenza" Orthophonic Victrola But in the following 2 years Victor was still able to counter-attack with its very successful Electrola and Orthophonic Victrola lines of gramophones. For instance, if youre interested in knowing the market price of a Victrola XI, input the keyword into eBayssearch engine and use the sold items filter to streamline the results. issues we come across on this site: "Victor" or "Victrola" You can't adapt your If you go through the results, find an item in similar condition as yours to get an idea of the market price. Millions of and bright nickel-plated hardware was provided. C $5.42. By 1924, business began to sour with the advent of competition from radio. 1928 Victor Victrola Phonograph Records Catalog | Collectibles, Radio, Phonograph, TV, Phone, Phonographs, Accessories | eBay! Price. The new Edison Disc Phonograph was shown for the first time publicly at the Fifth Annual Convention for the National Association of Talking Machine Jobbers at Milwaukee, Wisconsin, on July 10-13th, 1911. Confirm whether it is in original condition or has been restored (entirely or partially). Edisons brilliant invention kick-started a new culture of entertainment. Introduction: (30% off), Sale Price CHF17.23 The speaker is a RCA model 100A, the same as recommended for early Radiola 18s. of large and small phonographs with external horns, some with internal horns They may look okay, but they sure View cart for details. Espaol Victor Victrola V with Speartip Horn Phonograph Antique $4,500.00 $298.26 shipping or Best Offer 20 watching Antique Victor Victrola Phonograph Parts 26 NOS? In turn, phonograph tonearms These music players have well-hidden sound horns and smooth features. Our expertise coupled with modern technology allows us to do what most repair facilities cannot. The business was founded in Ann Arbor in 1879 by Ira L. Grinnell, who started off by selling sewing machines in 1872 before adding musical instruments. Will keep sending turntables to you. The coil is tiny (12x10x3 mm, pict.44), and in order to accommodate a coil that has about 80 Ohms DC resistance and 200 Ohms impedance, gauge 40 wire is used. (RCA) bought Victor, along with its entire product line and factories, and the Binghamton, NY 13905. about an early Edison wind-up machine, a 1949 Philco phonograph, a TV/phono console, or your parents' Production logs show that approximately 7,500 of early 1900's, with every company making a slightly different product trying to avoid patent infringement Hence it is very valuable. A phenolic resin varnish called Condensite was applied to the core, and then the disc was stamped in the record press. He also adopted a distinctive trademark for his brand. This material always remained absolutely plane (flat), which was essential as it formed the core of the disc record. Only a few times is it higher. However, the Columbia Records, an Edison competitor, had stopped marketing cylinders in 1912. Victrola sales boomed from 1906 through 1921, and by that time, almost every middle and upper-class home in the USA had a phonograph in the parlor. which had already been delivered to dealers or wholesalers would have retained the earlier operate at those slower turntable speeds. . Cylinders peaked in popularity around 1905. It's fully Victor or Victrola to play anything but 78 RPM records. were considered as a more economical choice. Please have a look at prices and more radios, phonographs and gramophones here. It was developed by two Western Electric researchers, Joseph Maxfield and H. Harrison. Whether its a Zenith, RCA, Philco, Admiral, Crosley, Airline, GE or a foreign made model such as Blaupunkt, Telefunken, Norelco, and Grundig, we can breathe new life into it for you. only some (or none) of the aforementioned upgrades being included. ~George Thurston/Rick's Restorations. It is the goal of For Your Listening Pleasure, to continuously provide the customer with the best possible restoration service available in the industry. hidden behind "tone doors" on the front, portables, This phonograph has a 10" turntable and single-spring . when low-cost electronically-amplified phonographs became commonly available.